A/B/U print sheets

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A/B/U print sheets

Post by Crystal_Lotus » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:23 am

Can anyone confirm if the Alpha print sheets were 10x10, 10x11, or 11x11???

Also, Beta and Unlimited???


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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by Big Games Supply » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:30 am

How would you be able to tell the difference between an alpha and beta sheet without the corners to guide you?

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Post by Celebrindor » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:36 am

How would you be able to tell the difference between an alpha and beta sheet without the corners to guide you?
I would imagine they are marked around the edges.  Additionally, there are differences (Alpha had less varieties of lands, one rare and one common were left out, some art is minorly different)

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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by Ralph Herold » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:44 am

All sets in question have been printed on 11x11 sheets. WotC started to switch to 10x11 sheets with Alliances.

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Post by Crystal_Lotus » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:51 am

thanks Ralph.

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Post by Crystal_Lotus » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:12 am

someone please double check this math, but if it is correct, here are the probabilities of pulling a basic land in any given slot in either Alpha or Beta...

basic land as…

ALPHA BOOSTER --- 178.51 total basic lands

rare---4.132%
avg of 1.49 per box

unc---21.488%
avg of 23.21 per box

com---38.843%
avg of 153.82 per box


ALPHA STARTER --- 203.55 total basic lands


rare---4.132%
avg of 0.83 per box

unc---21.488%
avg of 27.93 per box

com---38.843%
avg of 174.79 per box



BETA BOOSTER --- 174.94 total basic lands


rare---3.306%
avg of 1.19 per box

unc---21.488%
avg of 23.21 per box

com---38.017%
avg of 150.55 per box


BETA STARTER --- 199.67 total basic lands


rare---3.306%
avg of 0.66 per box

unc---21.488%
avg of 27.93 per box

com---38.017%
avg of 171.07 per box



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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by dry cereal » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:38 am

what would wotc do if someone won the pro tour with an oversized deck?  When they print the championship deck it would screw em up.  Muahahaha  [smiley=evil.gif]
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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by Gryfalia » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:43 pm

To tell the difference between Alpha and Beta sheets, for the most part you would just look for the misprints that were fixed in Beta, plus the addition of more lands..

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Post by Big Games Supply » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:45 pm

To tell the difference between Alpha and Beta sheets, for the most part you would just look for the misprints that were fixed in Beta, plus the addition of more lands..

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OMG!!!  I did not even think of that.  Funny.  Thanks.

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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by Celebrindor » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:55 pm

I would imagine they are marked around the edges.  Additionally, there are differences (Alpha had less varieties of lands, one rare and one common were left out, some art is minorly different)

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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by Big Games Supply » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:58 pm


Thanks to you too buddy.  ;)

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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by coolio » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:22 am

How would you be able to tell the difference between an alpha and beta sheet without the corners to guide you?
look for volcanic island and cop black

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Post by Big Games Supply » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:54 am


look for volcanic island and cop black

Thanks.  Those two take care of the rare and common sheets, now what about the uncommon sheet?  Is there a card missing there?

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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by flatmatt » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:02 am

First text difference I found was in Basalt Monolith:

Alpha:
Tap to add 3 colorless mana to your mana pool. Does not untap as normal during untap phase, but can be untapped at any time for 3 mana. Tapping this artifact can be played as an interrupt.

Beta:
Tap to add 3 colorless mana to your mana pool. Does not untap as normal during untap phase; spend {3} to untap. Tapping this artifact can be played as an interrupt.

Edit: Otherwise, if you see one of these lands, it's Beta:
http://magiccards.info/be/en/291/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/285/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/297/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/288/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/282/

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Re: A/B/U print sheets

Post by coolio » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:53 am



Thanks.  Those two take care of the rare and common sheets, now what about the uncommon sheet?  Is there a card missing there?
yer jerkoff response warrants this..

I will use COMMON sense and assume they were kept together (seriously, if you had both sets, you'd play mix and match?)

but you could go with what gryf said and scan for fixed misprints..

some of us here use brainpower.. [smiley=idea.gif] marvel idea isnt it?

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