German Ishan Shade Artist Proof double sided(scan added)

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German Ishan Shade Artist Proof double sided(scan added)

Post by pickle.69 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:53 am

Hi I have told a few allread of you allready and hear is my new baby.
I was able to pick up a realy cool double sided card.
Sadly I only have my old camera for the moment which sucks and therefor I am sorry for the realy bad picture but I wanted you to get an idea of the card.
I also manage to pick up a few extra copies which I offer for trade and sale.

Ok now to the history of the card:

They messed up during printing which makes it very rare. Chris got all of them that they messed up. It seams that it is a Aprtisproof and they printed the card pic on both pages. as they are all thatway. Also the back is flipped compared to the front.

If interested let me know. and the rest enjoy


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Post by AXIOS » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:29 pm

wow, you got a mess in your house ;)
btw, are you sure they are genuine?
Can't they be forged, just like rebacked CE cards?
I am interested though ;)
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Post by pickle.69 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:48 pm

AXIOS wrote:wow, you got a mess in your house ;)
btw, are you sure they are genuine?
Can't they be forged, just like rebacked CE cards?
I am interested though ;)
its defenetly not rebacked I have checked them.
Also I know another forum member has one and he also says they are legit.
looks like they tryed to print on the AP again. and just tunred the paper over.
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Post by AXIOS » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:13 pm

pickle.69 wrote:
AXIOS wrote:wow, you got a mess in your house ;)
btw, are you sure they are genuine?
Can't they be forged, just like rebacked CE cards?
I am interested though ;)
its defenetly not rebacked I have checked them.
Also I know another forum member has one and he also says they are legit.
looks like they tryed to print on the AP again. and just tunred the paper over.
i believe you it is legitimate, BUT,
if they turned over the sheet and printed on the other side, wouldn't the position of the cards on the printing plates make it very coïncident that there is also an ishan's shade on the back?
The position of the card on the plates would cause that there HAVE to be a different card on the back, not the shade,
in my simple mathematical opinion that is impossible, unless the shade was in the very center of the plates, which is also not possible because there are an even numbers on the plates..............
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Post by flatmatt » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:46 pm

AXIOS wrote:
pickle.69 wrote:
AXIOS wrote:wow, you got a mess in your house ;)
btw, are you sure they are genuine?
Can't they be forged, just like rebacked CE cards?
I am interested though ;)
its defenetly not rebacked I have checked them.
Also I know another forum member has one and he also says they are legit.
looks like they tryed to print on the AP again. and just tunred the paper over.
i believe you it is legitimate, BUT,
if they turned over the sheet and printed on the other side, wouldn't the position of the cards on the printing plates make it very coïncident that there is also an ishan's shade on the back?
The position of the card on the plates would cause that there HAVE to be a different card on the back, not the shade,
in my simple mathematical opinion that is impossible, unless the shade was in the very center of the plates, which is also not possible because there are an even numbers on the plates..............
Aren't (weren't) sheets printed 11x11? So if this did happen, the Shade would have to be the exact center card on the sheet. Not very likely, true, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Quite possibly the rest of this sheet is out there with different front/back cards.

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Post by AXIOS » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:52 pm

flatmatt wrote: Aren't (weren't) sheets printed 11x11? So if this did happen, the Shade would have to be the exact center card on the sheet. Not very likely, true, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Quite possibly the rest of this sheet is out there with different front/back cards.
This is what "bothers" me,
pickle.69 wrote: I also manage to pick up a few extra copies which I offer for trade and sale.
A few xtra copies,
richard, are they all ishan shades....?
If so, there should be A LOT of other homelands cards like this.....
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Post by pickle.69 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:55 pm

I have no ideas how artis proof are printed.
lets say you have a smaller print sheet not the 121 slot one.
all only card for each available slot is the same.

you get the paper out and put it in the wrong way (since I have no double sided printer at home I myself allways need 2 attempts to get it done right if I want a double sided printout).
and bingo you would get the card I have

also funny is that in the front all are shifted to the top slightly,and in the back they are also shifted to the same one
(One side has large border on the top, the other one on the bottum)


As I said the total production was given to Chris.
I got them from his Ex girlfreind wife whatever.
I know personaly of 11, two she auctioned off earlier one that is allready in a members ahnd for while and the 8 I have.
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Post by AXIOS » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:56 pm

pickle.69 wrote:I have no ideas how artis proof are printed.
lets say you have a smaller print sheet not the 121 slot one.
all only card for each available slot is the same.

you get the paper out and put it in the wrong way (since I have no double sided printer at home I myself allways need 2 attempts to get it done right if I want a double sided printout).
and bingo you would get the card I have

also funny is that in the front all are shifted to the top slightly,and in the back they are also shifted to the same one
(One side has large border on the top, the other one on the bottum)
but are they all shades?
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Post by pickle.69 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:04 pm

AXIOS wrote: but are they all shades?
OOOPS sorry Yes they are all shades. all german and all the same.
only one has a small white dot without color in the text feild.
also the other three I know of are exactly like that.
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Post by pickle.69 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:19 pm

had to do it

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Post by pickle.69 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:20 pm

also they have a all a small blue spot on the side of the border (0.5-1 cm) of color on the side but onyl on one side.

I`ll try to post better pics tonight
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Post by dry cereal » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:31 pm

i want one

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Post by fvzappa » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:10 pm

Count me in, of course. I do wonder, however, how the misprinting of these happened....

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Post by Archivist » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:13 pm

Fake.



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Post by dry cereal » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:41 pm

i agree that it's probably fake...but that still begs the question...why!!!!

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