Rivals quick start set cards 1995 different?

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Rivals quick start set cards 1995 different?

Post by jacQues » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:52 pm

Are the cards in the Rivals quick start set cards different? (standard 1995 version, obviously the 1996 version is)

Maybe I'm just getting paranoid... ;-)

I opened one such box in the hope they were 1996. Unfortunately they were standard 4ed 1995 cards. However, I did notice that ALL of them had a mark on the back that I haven't seen before or since. I scanned in the cardback and drew a circle around the mark.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? In other words; anyone out there who can check their cards from a Rivals box whether or not they also have this marking.

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Re: Rivals quick start set cards 1995 different?

Post by dragsamou » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:15 pm

jacQues wrote:Are the cards in the Rivals quick start set cards different? (standard 1995 version, obviously the 1996 version is)

Maybe I'm just getting paranoid... ;-)

I opened one such box in the hope they were 1996. Unfortunately they were standard 4ed 1995 cards. However, I did notice that ALL of them had a mark on the back that I haven't seen before or since. I scanned in the cardback and drew a circle around the mark.

Can anyone confirm or deny this? In other words; anyone out there who can check their cards from a Rivals box whether or not they also have this marking.

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All the US Rivals have that mark and have the 1995 Date.
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Re: Rivals quick start set cards 1995 different?

Post by jacQues » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:21 pm

dragsamou wrote:Hi.
All the US Rivals have that mark and have the 1995 Date.
Whoa! Right...

That means that those cards are unique as well...making 4ed even harder to collect now with FIVE DIFFERENT VERSIONS!!

4ED BREAKDOWN:
1994 preview (just 2 cards)
1995 regular
1995 USA mirror (special coating)
1995 Rivals (mark on back)
1996 Rivals

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Post by dragsamou » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:35 pm

jacQues wrote: 4ED BREAKDOWN:
1994 preview (just 2 cards)
1995 regular
1995 USA mirror (special coating)
1995 Rivals (mark on back)
1996 Rivals

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1994 preview (just 2 cards)
What do you mean by those?
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Post by Ralph Herold » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:40 pm

He means the Armada Comics cards Fireball and Blue Elemental Blast.

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Re: Rivals quick start set cards 1995 different?

Post by jacQues » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:40 pm

dragsamou wrote:1994 preview (just 2 cards)
What do you mean by those?
See here: http://www.magiclibrary.net/rarities-armada.html

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Post by dragsamou » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:01 pm

Ralph Herold wrote:He means the Armada Comics cards Fireball and Blue Elemental Blast.
Thanks Ralph,I call them Armada Comics Cards as well....The Preview
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Post by dragsamou » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:02 pm

jacQues wrote:
dragsamou wrote:Hi.
All the US Rivals have that mark and have the 1995 Date.
Whoa! Right...

That means that those cards are unique as well...making 4ed even harder to collect now with FIVE DIFFERENT VERSIONS!!

4ED BREAKDOWN:
1994 preview (just 2 cards)
1995 regular
1995 USA mirror (special coating)
1995 Rivals (mark on back)
1996 Rivals

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Alpha cut is a Sixth different Version ;-)
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Post by jacQues » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:03 am

I just double-checked my cards. Can someone here who has an opened box check the following cars:
- Island (5 clouds) [not found?]
- Phantom Monster [no mark]

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Post by dragsamou » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:43 pm

jacQues wrote:I just double-checked my cards. Can someone here who has an opened box check the following cars:
- Island (5 clouds) [not found?]
- Phantom Monster [no mark]

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This is normal with US Rivals,these 2 cards are not in the set ;-)
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http://magic.flaminio.com/rarities-box-rivals.html
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Post by jacQues » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:09 pm

dragsamou wrote:
jacQues wrote:I just double-checked my cards. Can someone here who has an opened box check the following cars:
- Island (5 clouds) [not found?]
- Phantom Monster [no mark]

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This is normal with US Rivals,these 2 cards are not in the set ;-)
I add a link with others infos.
http://magic.flaminio.com/rarities-box-rivals.html
That explains "Phantom Monster", as it doesn't exist in the set but does in the 1996 version. Whereas the other 'extra' cards in the 1996 version simply appear more often.

However, I don't see any * next to any Island. I have a full basic land set with 1996 (all 15 lands). But could only find 14 lands for the 1995 set (with mark on back). I am missing the Island (5 clouds version).

I assume that basic lands in the set are fixed, e.g. particular art on defined positions in each deck. If not it could happen that I "miss" a version, just by being unlucky. But if so (and I believe this is the case) I either "miss" this Island by means of packaging error OR that Island doesn't exist (and a * should be added in that list) OR that land doesn't have the mark.

Can anyone verify any of this?

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Post by dragsamou » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:07 pm

jacQues wrote:
dragsamou wrote:
jacQues wrote:I just double-checked my cards. Can someone here who has an opened box check the following cars:
- Island (5 clouds) [not found?]
- Phantom Monster [no mark]

jacQues
Hi.
This is normal with US Rivals,these 2 cards are not in the set ;-)
I add a link with others infos.
http://magic.flaminio.com/rarities-box-rivals.html
That explains "Phantom Monster", as it doesn't exist in the set but does in the 1996 version. Whereas the other 'extra' cards in the 1996 version simply appear more often.

However, I don't see any * next to any Island. I have a full basic land set with 1996 (all 15 lands). But could only find 14 lands for the 1995 set (with mark on back). I am missing the Island (5 clouds version).

I assume that basic lands in the set are fixed, e.g. particular art on defined positions in each deck. If not it could happen that I "miss" a version, just by being unlucky. But if so (and I believe this is the case) I either "miss" this Island by means of packaging error OR that Island doesn't exist (and a * should be added in that list) OR that land doesn't have the mark.

Can anyone verify any of this?

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The Island with the 5 Clouds doesn't exist in Rivals US.
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Post by jacQues » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:29 pm

dragsamou wrote:The Island with the 5 Clouds doesn't exist in Rivals US.
Right, hmmm... so a * is missing from that page you linked. Or (just realised) its been replaced with the 5 clouds version in the 1996 box version.

In any case my collection is correct and so is my understanding of this box set.

Many thanks for all the help by everyone on this thread.

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Post by berkumps » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:45 pm

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, can someone post a scan/image of a '95 US Rivals card back identifying the 'mark' that is visible.

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