japeneese brown bordered

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:49 pm

i was going through my box of forieghn cards and i'm finding a ton of japaneese brown bordered backs they are black bordered on the face. and the copyrite date is 1996 are theese common ???

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:06 pm

checking theese out further they are japaneese bb forth and japaneese chronicals  both fron 1996 i have 100's of theese they are definately brown bordered backs

mintcollector · Post by **mintcollector** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:56 pm

I noticed that the print quality in 1996 was very questionable.  Cards were very subjective to sunlight, heat, and other elements.  The card gloss seemed to degrade and not keep it's nice sheen and shift to a powdery opaque.  Color fade was very prevalent, like the black fading to brownish tinges.  I saw this in many Alliances cards at the time.  I would guess that all cards printed during that time period had the same effects.  If I had to guess you just save element damaged cards.  I learned this the hard way leaving a binder in my car back in 96 in the heat for many hours full of Alliances cards for trade.

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:01 pm

Mike i have a stack 3 inches high and only the back borders thats hard to imagine that many cards just faded on the back borders and no where else on the cards.

Where's Squt he'll know and maybe Grayfala he buys tons of foreign cards

squt · Post by **squt** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:29 pm

Never seen that before.  Can you put up a scan?  I spose it's possible that they used a different ink for the border that was more easily faded by sun.

Squt

Gryfalia · Post by **Gryfalia** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:30 pm

maybe Grayfala he buys tons of foreign cards

Who's that?

Anyway, here's one thread about the wash-ed-out-ness of Japanese cards..

http://www.magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yab ... ;start=0#0

Gryfalia

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:39 pm

sorry i butchered your name thanks

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:41 pm

The cards aren't wased out just the back borders are brown

Gryfalia · Post by **Gryfalia** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:50 pm

So, you are talking about the BACK of Japanese BB 4th being browner? Â Wouldn't be surprised, but I will check tonight.

At one time I could tell you the expansion a card came from merely by looking at the back.  AQ was notorious for this..

Gryfalia

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:12 pm

also the japanese chronicals

mintcollector · Post by **mintcollector** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:28 pm

This is not the only time a color difference has happened before.  I'd like to cite the case of 5Ed.  Look at a 5th Ed card's back compared to any other set.  You will notice that 5Ed is a deeper, darker black.  I new a guy that played in tournies and used 5Ed lands with clear backed sleeves.  Basically his deck was marked.  I called the judge on him and he got DQ'd.  Ironically this guy bought the store the tourney was at a couple years later and ran it into the ground.  

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:09 pm

Gryfalia  and Squt send me your adresses i'll send you one to check out

squt · Post by **squt** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:30 pm

Stu - I emailed you direct - I'm on your ISP.

sylvanstu · Post by **sylvanstu** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:48 am

Squt i'm glad your on my isp. now if you can tell me what an isp is i'll send you the card  ???

Celebrindor · Post by **Celebrindor** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:56 am

Squt i'm glad your on my isp. now if you can tell me what an isp is i'll send you the card Â ???

ISP = Internet Service Provider, ie Comcast, AOL, Verizon, etc

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