Value of Miscut Revised Duals

[braves54321]

Ok, I have a revised underground sea, and here are some scans:

Front
Back


As you can see it has a big crease.


I have a friend that has the following tundra:
Front
Back

The only thing the scans don't show is some little dents in the card near the middle, like they were poked by something a bit bigger than a needle, but they didn't go all the way through.


These are the only duals I have ever seen like this. Does anyone know how much roughly they may be worth? Also, are these more common than I think?


Any help would be appreciated.

[AXIOS]

well, yours..............0,50 dollar cents.
The crease...... :-/

you're friends.....10 bucks?

[ende73]

Hello,

I don't think these are extremely worthy, but still interesting:

a) The Underground Sea shows a very common type of miscut (i.e. one border bigger than the other), especially in Revised. It is still a VERY sought after card for play, but certainly the huge crease hinders its legality... some people here in Italy would take it for $10-15 nonetheless (against $25-30 for NM)

b) The Tundra is rather interesting in my opinion. It is miscut enough to show a second card, and actually looking at the back it turns out it is not a second card but the edge of a sheet (white showing). This miscut is not too uncommon, but certainly rarer than the other kind. I would place this card somewhat higher than a normal Tundra, maybe at about $25-30 even.

Actually, I might be interested in the Tundra myself  ;D

[fvzappa]

I have a Tropical island, Bayou, & BoP that may have been from the same (or similar) sheet miscut. I paid $15 on each of the 3, which at that time was about 1 1/2 times the amount they were normally worth.

Nice find, I'd suggest playing w/ them for the heck of it....

[Samite_Healer]

Nice find, I'd suggest playing w/ them for the heck of it....

You can't play with these, they are white bordered.

[Mr.C]

You can't play with these, they are white bordered.

what?

[ende73]

I believe Samite_Healer means the Tundra shows white along the upper edge on the back, so it's easily recognizable from other cards.

[fvzappa]

Actually, it depends on the judge you ask, some are cooperative in letting you use cards that show all necessary info, assuming you use opaque sleeves. I often times bring a handfull of misprints to judges to get the okay to play them (I unknowingly spent a while doing this to MCM once).

So, grab some dark sleeves, & have at it I say!

[Celebrindor]

Actually, it depends on the judge you ask, some are cooperative in letting you use cards that show all necessary info, assuming you use opaque sleeves. I often times bring a handfull of misprints to judges to get the okay to play them (I unknowingly spent a while doing this to MCM once).

So, grab some dark sleeves, & have at it I say!

Yeah, true enough.  But what Enrico means is that the white on the back makes it a 'marked' card.

[ende73]

Yeah, true enough.  But what Enrico means is that the white on the back makes it a 'marked' card.

Exactly,

it would be like playing with a CE Black Lotus

[fvzappa]

Oh I understand. But the difference is that no judge will allow you to play w/ a CE card, but many see miscuts & errors as "well, it came out of a pack that way", and allow you to use them as long as the sleeves hide the error.

[gzeiger]

I think he was just trying to be funny... "white-bordered = not Beta."

There's no question the Tundra is play-legal, but the crease in the Sea makes it questionable. It looks like you'd be able to feel that through a sleeve.

[Annorax]

I think he was just trying to be funny... "white-bordered = not Beta."

There's no question the Tundra is play-legal, but the crease in the Sea makes it questionable. It looks like you'd be able to feel that through a sleeve.

Seconded. I'd allow the Tundra, but not that horridly-abused Sea.

I wouldn't pay more than five bucks for that Sea... but I'd offer your friend $15 for that Tundra in a bloody second if he's interested.