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Ink-stained Savannah

Post by Tha_Gunslinga » Fri May 04, 2012 10:31 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Savannah-Re ... 231cf1bd62

Has anyone ever seen anything like this on a Revised card? I can't imagine it came out of the pack that way.

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Post by mystical_tutor » Fri May 04, 2012 11:27 pm

It looks to me like it is quite possible unless 3rd edition printing was different than some of the things we have gotten after that:

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I have had these for a Looooong time and am I think they came out of boosters but do not know what the card order was on plates at the time. It could have happened later.

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Post by Hayden » Fri May 04, 2012 11:56 pm

Yes I have seen both the pale and bluish blotches before but do not have examples handy as I probably threw them out years ago before I knew people were interested in "misprints". #-o

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Post by Tha_Gunslinga » Sat May 05, 2012 12:26 am

Yeah, I have seen blotches too, and I have piles of them, but this just looks weird to me. Not sure why, but it just looks wrong.

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Post by berkumps » Sat May 05, 2012 2:13 am

I know this doesn't help, but hypothetically speaking, if one were able to view this card before purchasing/bidding, I would check the side of the card to ensure it is uncolored.

I wonder if the seller would be willing to stick the card between several other cards and take a photo of the sides of said stack of cards.

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Post by gzeiger » Sat May 05, 2012 9:12 pm

That would be a good question to ask. I have, and have opened, a fair number of blotched cards like Gary posted. None have ever had the blotch extend into the border as this Savannah does. Usually it's a blotch of missing color. The Sakura-Tribe Elders with the pink headband are the only ones I can think of that have ever really had color added like this.

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Post by mystical_tutor » Sun May 06, 2012 3:51 pm

Is it my old eyes or only my imagination? It appears to me that this blotch on these two cards goes across the border and connects...

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Post by Magic61983 » Sun May 06, 2012 10:45 pm

mystical_tutor wrote:Is it my old eyes or only my imagination? It appears to me that this blotch on these two cards goes across the border and connects...

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I'm going with Gary on this one. The blotch on the 2 shown doesn't show anything in the boarder. The only way to know if this is real or some highlighter job is to look at the side of the card and see if there's blue on the edge.
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Post by gzeiger » Tue May 08, 2012 1:22 am

Gary, if you're referring to the Llanowar Elves and Tundra Wolves, the splotches do indeed connect. This has been the case with all others I've seen. A spot on the printing plate didn't get a particular color of ink, resulting in a partial albino due to a traped air bubble more or less. I have up to five cards from CHK that share the same large blotch. In all cases it does not extend into the border due to being a lack of pigment rather than overlaid color.

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Post by fvzappa » Sat May 26, 2012 5:34 am

I know the person who won the auction. I saw it in person, and am not convinced that it is real. It may be, but given how easily this could be made, I am glad I didn't win it.

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Post by dragsamou » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:49 pm

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I do have 2 cards having the same blotch effect, and they are not altered in any ways, as I opened myself , the French Black Border Revised booster myself. Disque de Nevinyrral and Assassin Royal (Nevinyrral's Disk and Royal Assassin).
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Post by gzeiger » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:32 pm

"The same way" meaning the blotch goes through the border?

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Post by dragsamou » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:05 pm

gzeiger wrote:"The same way" meaning the blotch goes through the border?
I think a scan will do better.

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Post by Magic61983 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:28 pm

At this point if the Savannah was real wouldn't we see more blue blotched revised cards by this time? fvzappa if you know the owner check the edge of the card to see if the blue bleed into the edge similar to what you check for if a card is marketed. If so then the blue spots did not happen when the image was printed on the card.
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Post by mystical_tutor » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:25 pm

Now that is really interesting considering they are slightly different and from different sets, therefore different print runs.

Wonder what the heck causes such.

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dragsamou wrote:
gzeiger wrote:"The same way" meaning the blotch goes through the border?
I think a scan will do better.

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