Re: frequency of AN and Revised basic lands &
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:39 am
The auction for the 3 sealed and one open Summer pack was me. I had purchased 8 sealed packs from an ex-WotC employee. As he stated it, there were dump bins of random boosters in small quantities around the offices for employees to use to practice with. The Summer packs were labeled in the offices with a large green 'E' just to signify what printing they came from. People within the company knew of the 'Edgar' printing, but truthfully had limited interest in it. Test printings, prototypes and sample cards simply no big deal. They were unique or near-unique items, but that was it. These kinds of items are very common around the offices of any publications company.
Of those 8 packs, here's what I noticed...
They were all facing the front of the pack. This by itself is not a clear indicator simply because I have seen Revised packs facing both directions.
They were all marked with the green 'E'.
They varied in physical condition from very tattered to near perfect mint.
In order to prove I knew what I was talking about to my partners, I grabbed two packs and opened them. One of them had the hurricane. I sold the other open pack to a long time customer that was working on a set. I sold three packs to private individuals. (erloo) The pack that had the hurricane and the last three sealed packs I decided to ebay off.
print run
Several years ago I came up with this from various sources around the hobby...
assuming 35 booster boxes
rares --- 10 of each
uncommons --- 30 of each
commons --- 110 of each
basic lands --- 150 of each picture
I believe these numbers to be too low. I have had three seperate hurricanes over the past six years. I have seen three MIllstones owned by the same guy!
This is my best guess...
40-50 boxes (all booster boxes---this is 100% confirmed from sources at WotC to me personally)
rares --- 10-20 of each (depending on colation)
uncommons --- 30-50 of each
commons --- 110-170 of each
basic lands --- 175-225 of each picture
This is all very difficult to pin down because of the way the box colation occurs. Even if we knew for absolute fact that there were exactly say 41 boxes, it still would only be a guess as to the specific card counts on this small of a number of boxes.
Also, I know of one person that possesses a sealed box. I cannot say who or how, but it is out there and will most likely never appear out on the market for any price.
Also, having stores in north Texas, we have had Summer singles in five seperate collections we've purchased. Mostly lands and commons and uncommons, with the best two things so far, VF Sol Ring and NM Balance.
On the basic lands on revised sheets, here's what I came up with for Alpha/Beta
Alpha Production Run
200 Starter Display cases
10 boxes per case
2,000 Starter boxes
60 cards per deck (2 rares, 13 uncommons and 45 commons)
(avg. of 20 basic land per deck)(3 in uncommon slots and 17 in common slots)
SRP $7.95/deck (Released July 1993)
200 Booster Display cases
10 boxes per case
2,000 Booster boxes
15 cards per pack (1 rare, 3 uncommons and 11 commons)
(avg. of 4 to 5 basic land per pack) (4 in common slots and 2 out of 3 packs will have 1 basic land in an uncommon slot)
SRP $2.45/pack (Released July 1993)
Print Runs
2.6 million total cards printed
Rares 1,100 of each
Uncommons 4,500 of each
Commons 16,000 of each
Basic Land 85,500 of each pic
Beta Production Run
650 Starter Display cases
10 boxes per case
6,500 Starter boxes
60 cards per deck (2 rares, 13 uncommons and 45 commons)
(avg. of 20 basic land per deck)(3 in uncommon slots and 17 in common slots)
SRP $7.95/deck (Released August 1993)
720 Booster Display cases
10 boxes per case
7,200 Booster boxes
15 cards per pack (1 rare, 3 uncommons and 11 commons)
(avg. of 4 to 5 basic land per pack)
(4 in common slots and 2 out of 3 packs will have 1 basic land in an uncommon slot)
SRP $2.45/pack (released August 1993)
Print Runs
7.8 million total cards printed
Rares 3,200 of each
Uncommons 13,500 of each
Commons 48,000 of each Basic Land 171,500 of each pic
Hope this helps,
Of those 8 packs, here's what I noticed...
They were all facing the front of the pack. This by itself is not a clear indicator simply because I have seen Revised packs facing both directions.
They were all marked with the green 'E'.
They varied in physical condition from very tattered to near perfect mint.
In order to prove I knew what I was talking about to my partners, I grabbed two packs and opened them. One of them had the hurricane. I sold the other open pack to a long time customer that was working on a set. I sold three packs to private individuals. (erloo) The pack that had the hurricane and the last three sealed packs I decided to ebay off.
print run
Several years ago I came up with this from various sources around the hobby...
assuming 35 booster boxes
rares --- 10 of each
uncommons --- 30 of each
commons --- 110 of each
basic lands --- 150 of each picture
I believe these numbers to be too low. I have had three seperate hurricanes over the past six years. I have seen three MIllstones owned by the same guy!
This is my best guess...
40-50 boxes (all booster boxes---this is 100% confirmed from sources at WotC to me personally)
rares --- 10-20 of each (depending on colation)
uncommons --- 30-50 of each
commons --- 110-170 of each
basic lands --- 175-225 of each picture
This is all very difficult to pin down because of the way the box colation occurs. Even if we knew for absolute fact that there were exactly say 41 boxes, it still would only be a guess as to the specific card counts on this small of a number of boxes.
Also, I know of one person that possesses a sealed box. I cannot say who or how, but it is out there and will most likely never appear out on the market for any price.
Also, having stores in north Texas, we have had Summer singles in five seperate collections we've purchased. Mostly lands and commons and uncommons, with the best two things so far, VF Sol Ring and NM Balance.
On the basic lands on revised sheets, here's what I came up with for Alpha/Beta
Alpha Production Run
200 Starter Display cases
10 boxes per case
2,000 Starter boxes
60 cards per deck (2 rares, 13 uncommons and 45 commons)
(avg. of 20 basic land per deck)(3 in uncommon slots and 17 in common slots)
SRP $7.95/deck (Released July 1993)
200 Booster Display cases
10 boxes per case
2,000 Booster boxes
15 cards per pack (1 rare, 3 uncommons and 11 commons)
(avg. of 4 to 5 basic land per pack) (4 in common slots and 2 out of 3 packs will have 1 basic land in an uncommon slot)
SRP $2.45/pack (Released July 1993)
Print Runs
2.6 million total cards printed
Rares 1,100 of each
Uncommons 4,500 of each
Commons 16,000 of each
Basic Land 85,500 of each pic
Beta Production Run
650 Starter Display cases
10 boxes per case
6,500 Starter boxes
60 cards per deck (2 rares, 13 uncommons and 45 commons)
(avg. of 20 basic land per deck)(3 in uncommon slots and 17 in common slots)
SRP $7.95/deck (Released August 1993)
720 Booster Display cases
10 boxes per case
7,200 Booster boxes
15 cards per pack (1 rare, 3 uncommons and 11 commons)
(avg. of 4 to 5 basic land per pack)
(4 in common slots and 2 out of 3 packs will have 1 basic land in an uncommon slot)
SRP $2.45/pack (released August 1993)
Print Runs
7.8 million total cards printed
Rares 3,200 of each
Uncommons 13,500 of each
Commons 48,000 of each Basic Land 171,500 of each pic
Hope this helps,