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The Origin of Salvat Cards

Post by Gregtork » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:05 pm

Note: The post was wrote in spanish, because im not able to explain all this extense information properly in other language than spanish. I please ask for someone in the forum who can translate my post to english, to share the information with all the members. Thanks.

This is all I know about the origin of Salvat cards in Spain. I hope it help fo a better knowledgment about the theme.

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EDITED: Translation done by flatmatt. Read below.
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Post by flatmatt » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:03 pm

Thanks for all the info! I had some time on my hands, so here's my best translation:

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ORIGIN OF THE SALVAT CARDS:

On August 22, 2005, in some Spanish newsstands, appeared some installments of a Magic encyclopedia in 40 weekly issues, where it teaches the basic concepts of the game, the rules, and other general information. The product was sold with a set of exclusive cards that form 8 theme decks specially designed to illustrate the strategies of the game. Aside from that, there were a series of promotional gifts that accompanied the installments.

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This encyclopedia was distributed by Salvat, a company of the Hachette group specializing in the distributuion of issues [of magazines and the like], and Hasbro, parent company of Wizards of the Coast. The product was not distributed by Devir Iberia, Wizards' authorized distributor for Spain, which started doubt about their "officiality," but after consulting Devir and Wizards of the Coast, it has been confirmed it should be treated as a 100% legal product, authorized by Wizards and valid for DCI tournaments.

In each issue of the encyclopedia is given a booster with 12 cards for the theme decks. The first deck is a tribal deck of Rats called "Hungry Rats." These cards have a white border and the logo of a Pegasus, a mythological horse that is the logo of Salvat editorial.

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The first issue is composed of part of the chapters of the encyclopedia, a booster of 9th Edition in Castillian [presumably no different from normal Spanish boosters], a 9-pocket page, a starter CD-ROM, and the frist booster of special cards.

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The second issue went on sale September 13 and had part of the encyclopedia, a 9-pocket page, the booster of Salvat cards with the next twelve, and a 9th Edition demonstration pack for two players.

The third issue went on sale September 20, and had part of the encyclopedia, a 9-pocket page, the booster of Salvat cards with the next twelve, and a binder with a picture of a Hypnotic Specter on the front and a Serra Angel on the reverse.

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The fourth and fifth issues went on sale September 27 and October 4, respectively, and had parts of the encyclopedia, 9-pocket pages, the boosters of Salvat cards with the next 24, and clear sleeves for cards.

At this time, the distribution of this collection was cancelled without prior notice by the editorial, and they gave no explanation in this respect.

The speculations have been in many senses. One points to the collection not having had the success that had been anticipated in its launch, and was cancelled by failure in reception. Others commented that the distribution had been scarce, and had not been uniform in all of Spain (a sure thing, for another part), and that these issues were difficult to find in some areas, and practically impossible in others. It was also commented that Wizards had cancelled the collection for pressures from their Spanish partner, because Devir had not been taken into consideration to form part of the editorial team. The last theory pointed to an attempt of a pilot launch (a regular practice in the world of distribution for magazine issues) with the goal of measuring the reception of the collection and to be able to prepare adequately a "real" launch.

The case is that the collection ended in its fifth issue, with the Rat deck complete, but with the rest of the product unfinished.

The list of the first 60 cards, that compose the Rat deck is the following:

1/60 - Roemédulas (Marrow-Gnawer)
2/60 - Aluvión de ratas (Swarm of Rats)
3/60 - Incursión nocturna (Nocturnal Raid, 7Ed picture)
4/60 - Secuestracráneos (Skullsnatcher)
5/60 - Ratas gorjeantes (Chittering Rats)
6/60 - Fatiga agobiante (Crippling Fatigue)
7/60 - Hombre rata impuro (Dirty Wererat)
8/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
9/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
10/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
11/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
12/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
13/60 - Contrato Infernal (Infernal Contract, 7Ed picture)
14/60 - Aluvión de ratas (Swarm of Rats)
15/60 - Separar el alma (Sever Soul)
16/60 - Separar el alma (Sever Soul)
17/60 - Degollador nezumi (Nezumi Cutthroat)
18/60 - Canto fúnebre de pavor (Dirge of Dread)
19/60 - Ratas gorjeantes (Chittering Rats)
20/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
21/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
22/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
23/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
24/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
25/60 - Protector de los nezumi (Patron of the Nezumi)
26/60 - Suprimir (Suppress)
27/60 - Aluvión de ratas (Swarm of Rats)
28/60 - Ratas de la cripta (Crypt Rats, 7Ed picture)
29/60 - Degollador nezumi (Nezumi Cutthroat)
30/60 - Fatiga agobiante (Crippling Fatigue)
31/60 - Hombre rata impuro (Dirty Wererat)
32/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
33/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
34/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
35/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
36/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
37/60 - Tormenta sepulcral (Gravestorm)
38/60 - Robatumbas nezumi (Nezumi Graverobber)
39/60 - Robatumbas nezumi (Nezumi Graverobber)
40/60 - Ratas carroñeras (Carrion Rats)
41/60 - Ratas carroñeras (Carrion Rats)
42/60 - Secuestracráneos (Skullsnatcher)
43/60 - Secuestracráneos (Skullsnatcher)
44/60 - Festín de ratas (Rats' Feast)
45/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
46/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
47/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
48/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
49/60 - Latrocinio (Larceny)
50/60 - Leehuesos nezumi (Nezumi Bone-Reader)
51/60 - Tutor diabólico (Diabolic Tutor)
52/60 - Traición de la carne (Betrayal of Flesh)
53/60 - Ratas carroñeras (Carrion Rats)
54/60 - Ratas gorjeantes (Chittering Rats)
55/60 - Festín de ratas (Rats' Feast)
56/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
57/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
58/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
59/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
60/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)

In spite of there being duplicate cards, like the swamps and some of the rats, the cards have a unique numbers, from 1 to 60, there are no numbers repeated. All the cards are unique.

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In January 2006, a TV commercial of the issues of Magic appeared. It had been decided to return to put out the rest of the collection from number one, and this time on a large scale, it looks like, that includes national television publicity. On January 24 you could newly find number 1 in newsstands, with its part of the encyclopedia, the demonstrative CD-ROM, the 9th Edition booster, and the booster with the 12 cards of the Rat deck, but the card that appears in the first place in the pack is different from the first number in the first print run. The composition of the cards is also different. Cards from 1 to 12 were included:

1/60 - Roemédulas (Marrow-Gnawer)
2/60 - Aluvión de ratas (Swarm of Rats)
3/60 - Incursión nocturna (Nocturnal Raid, 7Ed picture)
4/60 - Secuestracráneos (Skullsnatcher)
5/60 - Ratas gorjeantes (Chittering Rats)
6/60 - Fatiga agobiante (Crippling Fatigue)
7/60 - Hombre rata impuro (Dirty Wererat)
8/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
9/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
10/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
11/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
12/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)

The original composition of the first booster was like so:

1/60 - Roemédulas (Marrow-Gnawer)
11/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
16/60 - Separar el alma (Sever Soul)
26/60 - Suprimir (Suppress)
31/60 - Hombre rata impuro (Dirty Wererat)
36/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
41/60 - Ratas carroñeras (Carrion Rats)
46/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
51/60 - Tutor diabólico (Diabolic Tutor)
6/60 - Fatiga agobiante (Crippling Fatigue)
?/60 - Pantano (Swamp, don´t remember)
?/60 - Pantano (Swamp, don´t remember)

Finding one more difference with the naked eye, without opening the pack, we see the new packs have been stamped with the number of on the back side. In this case 01, indicating that it's from the first issue, while the old five didn't have this numeration.

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The second issue of the collection, February 7, included the encyclopedia, the demonstration game, and the second of the Salvat boosters, stamped with the number 02 on the back side, and includes the following cards:ntes cartas:

13/60 - Contrato Infernal (Infernal Contract, 7Ed picture)
14/60 - Aluvión de ratas (Swarm of Rats)
15/60 - Separar el alma (Sever Soul)
16/60 - Separar el alma (Sever Soul)
17/60 - Degollador nezumi (Nezumi Cutthroat)
18/60 - Canto fúnebre de pavor (Dirge of Dread)
19/60 - Ratas gorjeantes (Chittering Rats)
20/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
21/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
22/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
23/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
24/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)

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Apparently the distribution of the cards will follow a sequential order, remaining as the following issues:tregas:

February 14 - Third - 03:

25/60 - Protector de los nezumi (Patron of the Nezumi)
26/60 - Suprimir (Suppress)
27/60 - Aluvión de ratas (Swarm of Rats)
28/60 - Ratas de la cripta (Crypt Rats, 7Ed picture)
29/60 - Degollador nezumi (Nezumi Cutthroat)
30/60 - Fatiga agobiante (Crippling Fatigue)
31/60 - Hombre rata impuro (Dirty Wererat)
32/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
33/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
34/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
35/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
36/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)

February 21 - Fourth - 04:

37/60 - Tormenta sepulcral (Gravestorm)
38/60 - Robatumbas nezumi (Nezumi Graverobber)
39/60 - Robatumbas nezumi (Nezumi Graverobber)
40/60 - Ratas carroñeras (Carrion Rats)
41/60 - Ratas carroñeras (Carrion Rats)
42/60 - Secuestracráneos (Skullsnatcher)
43/60 - Secuestracráneos (Skullsnatcher)
44/60 - Festín de ratas (Rats' Feast)
45/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
46/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
47/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
48/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)

February 28 - Fifth - 05:

49/60 - Latrocinio (Larceny)
50/60 - Leehuesos nezumi (Nezumi Bone-Reader)
51/60 - Tutor diabólico (Diabolic Tutor)
52/60 - Traición de la carne (Betrayal of Flesh)
53/60 - Ratas carroñeras (Carrion Rats)
54/60 - Ratas gorjeantes (Chittering Rats)
55/60 - Festín de ratas (Rats' Feast)
56/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)
57/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #339 from 8Ed)
58/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #341 from Onslaught)
59/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #340 from Urza´s Saga)
60/60 - Pantano (Swamp, #348 from 7Ed)

Apart from differences in the distribution of the cards, the price of the installments and the promotional gifts that are included with the collection have also changed.

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The next theme deck will be an Elf tribal deck, but it is still unknown what cards will comprise it. When I have more information, I will update this post.

For more information, you can go to the official website of Salvat at http://www.salvat.es.

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Post by Gregtork » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:16 pm

Matt, thanks for your help. ;-)

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Post by Tristal » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:31 pm

In that Meloku picture, do I spy a white-bordered FIXED version of Spanish Meloku?

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Post by Gregtork » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:03 am

Tristal wrote:In that Meloku picture, do I spy a white-bordered FIXED version of Spanish Meloku?
Yes, it´s strange, but I suppose it was an error made with "Photoshop"...

It is a WB spanish Meloku with the Kamigawa simbol and non-errated (tokens 1/1 while spanish version puts 2/2).

Under the card says "Card non-included".

When I have some time I will scan the picture bigger than this.

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Post by yvel » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:58 pm

hi,
if we suscrib to salvat, do we receiv this pack ?

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Post by dry cereal » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:44 am

how do I subscribe and how much does it cost?

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Post by Gregtork » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:05 am

dry cereal wrote:how do I subscribe and how much does it cost?
They only take susctriptor from Spain. I´va asked for some member who wants the entire collection, but no chance.

You can contact them on http://www.salvat.es/.

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Post by Tanwo » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:46 pm

After months of waiting I can buy them! :D
I think that now the 6th part (the first with green cards) is on sale, but I'm not sure. If I find them I'll tell you.
Let's hope that they put Counterspell in the blue deck! XD

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Post by agzz » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:03 pm

is there any list for the green parts?
i do not seem to find one on the site, but then again my spanish is limited to 'cerveza'. :p

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Post by Tristal » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:06 am

I would absolutely love to pick up white bordered Spanish Melokus should they come out. Heck, I'd even take the 'real' black bordered ones that make 2/2s :)

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Post by Gregtork » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:06 am

The issue #6 contains the first 12 cards from an elves deck.

March 6 - Sixth - 06:

1/60 - Voz del bosque (Voice of the Woods)
2/60 - Pastora magoanula (Nullmage Shepherd)
3/60 - Dominaenjambres de Wirewood (Wirewood Hivemaster)
4/60 - Dominaenjambres de Wirewood (Wirewood Hivemaster)
5/60 - Explorador de las copas (Treetop Scout)
6/60 - Explorador de las copas (Treetop Scout)
7/60 - Bienhechora (Wellwisher)
8/60 - Bosque (Forest, #349 from Onslaught)
9/60 - Bosque (Forest, #347 from Invasion)
10/60 - Bosque (Forest, from Portal or #349 from 8th)
11/60 - Bosque (Forest, from Portal or #350 from 8th)
12/60 - Bosque (Forest, #349 from Onslaught)
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Post by Gregtork » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:09 am

agzz wrote:is there any list for the green parts?
There are no cards list on Salvat site.
agzz wrote:i do not seem to find one on the site, but then again my spanish is limited to 'cerveza'. :p
But "Cerveza" (beer) its a great word. We learn it in school as soon as "Papá" (dad) and "Mamá" (mom)...

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Post by Tanwo » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:52 am

Gregtork wrote:The issue #6 contains the first 12 cards from an elves deck.

1/60 - Voz del bosque (Voice of the Woods)
2/60 - Pastora magoanula (Nullmage Shepherd)
3/60 - Dominaenjambres de Wirewood (Wirewood Hivemaster)
4/60 - Dominaenjambres de Wirewood (Wirewood Hivemaster)
5/60 - Explorador de las copas (Treetop Scout)
6/60 - Explorador de las copas (Treetop Scout)
7/60 - Bienhechora (Wellwisher)
8/60 - Bosque (Forest, #349 from Onslaught)
9/60 - Bosque (Forest, #347 from Invasion)
10/60 - Bosque (Forest, from Portal or #349 from 8th)
11/60 - Bosque (Forest, from Portal or #350 from 8th)
12/60 - Bosque (Forest, #349 from Onslaught)
It's interesting that they have put a Ravnica card here. Maybe they only had the rats deck completed and they did the other ones later.

I think I'm going to wait for the next deck, because I don't like elves very much.

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