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Silver border:

Exist 4 diff foil layer on the cards (your numbers 4-7). Than, every diff foil layer has diff brightly, diff darkly, diff holo......

Perhaps keep a scan as example in the index.

My english is bad, I know.

the swiss wrote:Testprints Antiquities and Revised (one of the other) on the back of excretory printing UL-Sheets:

Only on RARE-Sheet.

117 Rare and 4 Island

Pickle69, Alexis and other collector has a few cards.

Untreatet cards have square corners. Cards with 1, 2, 3 or 4 round corners are "Handmade".

Old Topic.


Thats all for the moment.

Still to make: Testprints Oath of Lieges to City of Traitors (8 cards) with Magic Back, Star and without Star, Black Borders and Numbers (-1 etc)

Hi Josef
I'm confused, of how to name them in the Index:
You wrote Antiquities and Revised on the back of excretory printing UL-Sheets:
But the Front of the cards are From Unlimited Cards while the back is with Antiquities cards and what looks like Revised cards. Waiting for some clarification before I add them in the index.

Still to make: Testprints Oath of Lieges to City of Traitors (8 cards) with Magic Back, Star and without Star, Black Borders and Numbers (-1 etc)
But those are already added. Getting lost here. Waiting for clarification as well.

the swiss wrote:Alexis

Thanks for the mail. For me, the cards are not real. Article 23 said: "idea of new frames". I propose to delete the "5 cards".

Hi Josef
I have deleted those from the Index.

Urza's Saga Textless Cards:

9 cards from Urza'a Sage, 1 card from 4E. Please change the title:

Urza's Saga and 4E Textless Cards

the swiss wrote:Silver border:

Exist 4 diff foil layer on the cards (your numbers 4-7). Than, every diff foil layer has diff brightly, diff darkly, diff holo......

Perhaps keep a scan as example in the index.

My english is bad, I know.

Getting totally lost with those. The only 2 scans that I grab from others of Silver Border are:
Survival of the Fittest (Silver Border) 020
City of Traitors (Silver Border) 037
Your English is better than my German
Maybe you can call me, so we both talk in proper French, whenever, you have time.

dragsamou wrote:

the swiss wrote:Alexis

Thanks for the mail. For me, the cards are not real. Article 23 said: "idea of new frames". I propose to delete the "5 cards".

Hi Josef
I have deleted those from the Index.

This is good Alexis, i would recommend to include only cards that are owned by reliable Persons. There are too many rumors floating, and as long as there is no 'proof' it should stay as rumor.

Next step:

EXODUS TESTPRINTS CARDS BLACK BORDER WITHOUT STAR SECOND SERIES

3 variations of foil layer exist:

- Foil layer over entire card
- Picture and textbox without foil layer
- Textbox without foil layer

Inside the 3 variations, different grades of brightness exist.

The original symbol is on the cards:

Oath of Lieges - Exodus - gold Symbol
Mana Breach - Exodus - silver Symbol
Plaguebearer - Exodus - gold Symbol
Figthing Chance - Exodus - gold Symbol
Survival of the Fittest - Exodus - gold Symbol
Memory Crystal - Exodus - gold Symbol
City of Traitors - Exodus - gold Symbol
Pygmy Hippo - Vision - "V" Symbol

and the exception:

Pygmy Hippo - Vision - without Symbol


All the cards with Symbol (Exodus and Vision) exist:

- 1 and 1

and the exception:

Pygmy Hippo - Vision - without Symbol:

- 1 and + 1



Members: Please check this informations and give feedback. Thanks.


SILVER BORDERS: All the cards have the original Symbol.

the swiss wrote:Next step:

EXODUS TESTPRINTS CARDS BLACK BORDER WITHOUT STAR SECOND SERIES

3 variations of foil layer exist:

- Foil layer over entire card
- Picture and textbox without foil layer
- Textbox without foil layer

Inside the 3 variations, different grades of brightness exist.

The original symbol is on the cards:

Oath of Lieges - Exodus - gold Symbol
Mana Breach - Exodus - silver Symbol
Plaguebearer - Exodus - gold Symbol
Figthing Chance - Exodus - gold Symbol
Survival of the Fittest - Exodus - gold Symbol
Memory Crystal - Exodus - gold Symbol
City of Traitors - Exodus - gold Symbol
Pygmy Hippo - Vision - "V" Symbol

and the exception:

Pygmy Hippo - Vision - without Symbol


All the cards with Symbol (Exodus and Vision) exist:

- 1 and 1

and the exception:

Pygmy Hippo - Vision - without Symbol:

- 1 and + 1



Members: Please check this informations and give feedback. Thanks.


SILVER BORDERS: All the cards have the original Symbol.

Hi Josef
All info added in the index, but that means that I need to take off all the cards like:
Oath of Lieges (+1, no shooting star), etc...
and
Pygmy Hippo (1, no shooting star)
correct?
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/716-rar ... order.html

Hi Alexis

Right.

But only after BB with Star and Feedback from the members.

Next Step:


EXODUS TEST PRINTS CARDS BLACK BORDER WITH STAR SECOND SERIES

3 variations of foil layer exist:

- Foil layer over entire card
- Picture and textbox without foil layer
- Textbox without foil layer

Inside the 3 variations, different grades of brightness exist.


The symbol is embedded in black, silver or gold on the cards (no original symbol):

Oath of Lieges - Exodus
Mana Breach - Exodus
Plaguebearer - Exodus
Figthing Chance - Exodus
Survival of the Fittest - Exodus
Memory Crystal - Exodus
City of Traitors - Exodus

With the exception of:

Pygmy Hippo - Vision - with Exodus symbol


Numbers on cards:

Oath of Lieges, Mana Breach, Plaguebearer, Figthing Chance, Survival of the Fittest:

- 1 and 1 and + 1

Question: -2, +2, -3, +3 exist ???


Memory Crystal:

- 1 and + 1 and + 2 and + 3

Question: 1, -2, -3 exist ???


City of Traitors:

- 1 with gold textbox
+ 1 with gold, white, green, red, blue, black textbox
- 2 with gold, white, green, red, blue, black textbox
+ 2 with gold, white, green, red, blue, black textbox
+ 3 with bold, white, green, red, blue, black textbox

Question: -1 (white, green, red, blue, black textbox), 1 (gold, white, green, red, blue, black textbox), -3 (gold, white, green, red, blue, black textbox) exist ???


Pygmy Hippo:

+ 1


Question: Other numbers exist ???


Members: Please feedback (questions and other.....). Only proved informations will take place on the rarities. Thanks.

Hi Alexis

Missing:

FOIL-Testprint for the STAR - Silver Front and Magic Back

the swiss wrote:Hi Alexis

Missing:

FOIL-Testprint for the STAR - Silver Front and Magic Back

Hi Josef
Info added in Index and Scan in Other. I have added the Info as well in the Foil White Filler Card in Filler Cards.

the swiss wrote: Textless Urza's Destiny:

The entire set exist with round corners (c/u/r). I am sure, that c and u exist with square corners (never see a rare).

Haven't been around for very long, but can help a bit with test prints.

Rares with square corners exist. Cut that way from a single sheet. The THran Dynamo is an uncommon with grey/silver symbol. Rares have gold symbols -- probably an issue with the scan.

the swiss wrote:8E with Unglued Symbl:

2 variations one the non-foil and foil cards:

brightly and darkly

There are technically more than those, I believe. Nonfoil, foil, old foiling, timeshifted foiling.

the swiss wrote:Index - Alternate frame 6E Testprints, 5 cards:

The Flame Spirit and others came out with the serie 8E with Unglued Symbol.

The 5 "cards" have white Borders.

I never see testprints with white borders.

They are real cards ???

These are alternate frame cards done by Inquest, I believe. Not actual cards.