List of hard to distinguish FWB and 4th Edition Cards

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Post by palaueb » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:50 pm

@Neuron, can you post a swamp please?

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Post by Neuron » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:55 pm

I would like to, as I have pictures of all lands, I just need to find a new picture site, my old one is going to be shut down.

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Post by cataclysm80 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:55 am

palaueb wrote:@Neuron, can you post a swamp please?
There is a comparison picture of a German FWB Swamp, German 4th Swamp, & German Introductory Two-Player Set Swamp in this thread.
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... c&start=45
(scroll to bottom of page after clicking on link)
There is also info there about how to tell them apart.
Hopefully this will help until the info can be posted here in this thread.

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Post by Neuron » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:50 pm

Added:

German Warp Artifact
German Basic Lands

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Post by Neuron » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:20 pm

Added:

Wall of Swords
Power Leak


With a number of clicks approximating 4000, this is one of the more popular threads. If you have any cards in the list from which you are sure about the set, please let me know. You'll help many collectors.

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Post by mmgun » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:18 am

according to these pictures:

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these explanation are wrong.

Blauer Urknall (Blue Elemental Blast): FWB rulestext doesn't mention "Deiner Wahl" ("target"). 4th: Does mention "Deiner Wahl"
Roter Urknall (Red Elemental Blast): FWB rulestext doesn't mention "Deiner Wahl" ("target"). 4th: Does mention "Deiner Wahl"

The difference is in text alignment, but none version says "deiner Wahl" Maybe something is mixed up here with the 2PS Set ? But i dont know if these cards were in 2PS. Another difference is, one version uses the word "bleibende", the other does not.

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Post by Neuron » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:01 pm

Thanks for mentioning that, it's corrected now.

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Post by Neuron » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:06 am

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Auferstehung der Toten (Raise Dead): FWB: Last word in the first line "dem" 4th: Last word in the first line "Deinem".
Belebung der Toten (Animate Dead): FWB: Very small font, six lines of text. 4th: Eight lines of text.
Knochenmauer (Wall of Bones): FWB: Word division in flavour text "let-zten" 4th: No word division.
Mondschatten (Bad Moon): FWB: Word division "erhal-ten" 4th: No word division.
Terror: FWB: First word in text "Bringe" 4th: First word in text "Begrabe".
Todesgewebe (Deathlace): FWB: Very small font, last word in text "Karte" 4th: Last word "Ziels".

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Post by box1985 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:50 am

Yes it's correct!

FWB is also Much darker than 4th edition.
That's is more visible in white,blue and green cards.

As you wrote ( confirmed in another vintage italian site) an other difference is the sign over "i" and "j". 4th edition have round dot while FWB (Or as we usually call "seconda edizione Or second edition" have slash marks.

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cataclysm80 wrote:Good idea Ron, this will be a Great thread!

Of coarse, the first thing to do when trying to identify which of these sets a card is from is to check the set list. Many cards are only in one of the two sets. For example, there are no dual lands in 4th Edition.

The next thing to look for is a lowercase i or j in the card name. FWB uses slash marks above those letters, while 4th uses more of a round dot. Here is a picture.

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Here is a link to an older thread with more tips on how to tell these sets apart. http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=2383

The above tips will help in identifying most cards from these sets, but some cards are more difficult, and this thread is about those difficult cards.



Ron, is your list above a complete list of the cards which are in both sets but do not contain an i or j in the card name?

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Re: List of hard to distinguish FWB and 4th Edition Cards

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Post by box1985 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:38 am

All cards from

FBB set search in this list :
http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _7633_8960


FWB : http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _7633_8959


4th : http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _7633_8973

That's the most complete italian website with i think the 99% of correct image!!!! However write if you find something to verify. It's a pleasure for me guys. 👍

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Post by box1985 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:48 am

It's difficult for me to classify "incAnalare energia".

The first and second photos have the same exactly text but different color.
The second if i consider only the colour must be 4th...but i'm not sure


The second and third photos have a different text but same colour.
Don't know if the second photo is 4th....

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Re: List of hard to distinguish FWB and 4th Edition Cards

Post by dragsamou » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:10 am

box1985 wrote:White
armageddon FBB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321277

Armageddon FWB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=320970

Armageddon 4th http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=322124

Armatura sacra FBB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321278

Armatura sacra FWB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=320971

Armatura sacra 4th http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=322148

Avatar FBB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321279

Avatar FWB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=320972

Avatar 4th http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=322159

Castello FBB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321283

Castello FWB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=320976

Castello 4th http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=322131

Forza Sacra FBB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321295

Forza sacra FWB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=320988

Forza sacra 4th http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=322149

Karma FBB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321302

Karma FWB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=320995

Karma 4th http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=322151

Pegaso delle mese FBB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321309

Pegaso delle mese FWB http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=321002

Pegaso delle mese 4th http://www.cardgame-club.it/index.php?m ... _id=322154
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Post by mmgun » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:27 pm

For me the links work fine. But they dont link to the actual card pictures, but just to the search result overview page for each card.
However, this is a public page, so everyone can check any card there himself.

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Post by box1985 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:00 pm

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Yes just open the Links , the result is the card i wrote

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