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Print variations in chinese 4th BB Uncommons

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:43 pm
by mmgun
It was mentioned earlier, that Killer Bees and Carrion Ants have variations in the alignment of their Power/Toughness.
I recently found more of these issues in the set, so i want to find out, how many exist at all. Only uncommons seem to be affected.
If you have a lot of chinese 4th BB uncommons, please check if you find more of these variations:

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Additionally i found a picture of 4th BB Uthden Troll with a white dot next to the 2/2. Can anyone confirm, this variation exists ? So far i just own regular versions.

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:14 pm
by berkumps
I just opened 2 boxes of T-C 4th starter decks. I'll check when I'm home.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:33 pm
by cataclysm80
How very odd. One has a smaller font for power & toughness. Must have been printed with a different printing plate. Either the first was in error and was corrected or it broke and was replaced?

Tav

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:39 pm
by l0qii
I opened several boxes of starters years ago. All my uncommons are of the variation on the left, and none of my trolls have dots.

This means these are variations between multiple print runs. Has anyone opened any booster boxes? I have only ever seen starters.

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:16 pm
by mmgun
berkumps wrote:I just opened 2 boxes of T-C 4th starter decks. I'll check when I'm home.
No more godpack opening youtube videos this time ? :-(

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:03 pm
by berkumps
mmgun wrote:
berkumps wrote:I just opened 2 boxes of T-C 4th starter decks. I'll check when I'm home.
No more godpack opening youtube videos this time ? :-(
Nope, just normal collation in these starters :(

On another note, I posted previously about receiving Killer Bees artist proofs with both variations, so not sure how this happens.

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:28 pm
by Neuron
Weird. The only explanation seems to be two printing plates that worked simultaneously. If someone was under time pressure, this would make sense. On the other hand, building up two printing presses would have elevated the production costs a lot.

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:56 am
by cataclysm80
Well, we've seen from the card design research that these were designed before Japanese, but not released until afterward. Maybe they used two presses because they were behind schedule?

Tav

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:08 pm
by berkumps
If this were the case, then I guess artist proofs were produced through both means as well.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:23 am
by berkumps
I found all the variations pictured above (although I didn't get a regular balloon brigade). I also found Osai Vultures not pictured above:

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And I found both versions of the Troll, although I think they came from separate boxes:

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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:41 am
by mmgun
Very cool finds, Mark ! Now i need to find those as well. You dont happen to have spare ones ?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:03 am
by berkumps
I just opened a Carrion Ants with tiny P/T in a T-C 4th booster pack, so I've got it from both boosters and starters.

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:52 pm
by mmgun
If by any chance you have a spare Troll with "Dot" , this is very hard to come by, because most people think i am crazy when i ask them to check for that dot )-:

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:34 pm
by mystical_tutor
Can't add much. All of my extra UC (collection binder not available atm) have the large P/T--same as commons and rares
Air Elemental (2)
Bog Wraith
Hypnotic Specter
Serra Angel
Segovian Leviathan

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:27 am
by mystical_tutor
Happens every time. As soon as I open my mouth it all changes.

Got a AP of the Killer Bees today with the small p/t on them so add one more to the list.

Gary