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Citadel Token variation

Post by hammr7 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:08 am

Its been a while since I looked through my collection of Citadel Tokens. I finally decided to try and organize what I have, to see if I should open a sealed box of them to complete what I still needed.

For those who collect these, you know there were three series. "Alpha" were all black & white, with black borders around the edges of the tokens. There were 11 different tokens. "Beta" was the same artwork, except no outside black borders. Unlimited went color for most of the tokens. Unlike Beta, in Unlimited there were alternate arts for many of the tokens. There were 14 different token groups with a total of 30 different artworks.

Two of the three carryover black tokens (Caribou-1 and Citizen-1) apparently saw the artwork stay exactly the same from Beta to Unlimited. One of the three carryover black tokens (Thrull-1) saw the artwork enlarged in size from Beta to Unlimited. Some of the other beta tokens, like Minor Demon and Tetravite, saw both a color change and the enlarged artwork in Unlimited.

Anyway, in sorting my tokens I found a few Tetravite tokens that were brown in color (like Unlimited) but had the smaller artwork (like Beta).

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/589-rar ... -beta.html

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/590-rar ... mited.html

This variation is not shown on the site. Because of the color it has to be an Unlimited variation. I was wondering if anyone else has other similar variations of the Minor Demon, or other variations not listed.

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Re: Citadel Token variation

Post by dragsamou » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:21 pm

hammr7 wrote:Its been a while since I looked through my collection of Citadel Tokens. I finally decided to try and organize what I have, to see if I should open a sealed box of them to complete what I still needed.

For those who collect these, you know there were three series. "Alpha" were all black & white, with black borders around the edges of the tokens. There were 11 different tokens. "Beta" was the same artwork, except no outside black borders. Unlimited went color for most of the tokens. Unlike Beta, in Unlimited there were alternate arts for many of the tokens. There were 14 different token groups with a total of 30 different artworks.

Two of the three carryover black tokens (Caribou-1 and Citizen-1) apparently saw the artwork stay exactly the same from Beta to Unlimited. One of the three carryover black tokens (Thrull-1) saw the artwork enlarged in size from Beta to Unlimited. Some of the other beta tokens, like Minor Demon and Tetravite, saw both a color change and the enlarged artwork in Unlimited.

Anyway, in sorting my tokens I found a few Tetravite tokens that were brown in color (like Unlimited) but had the smaller artwork (like Beta).

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/589-rar ... -beta.html

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/590-rar ... mited.html

This variation is not shown on the site. Because of the color it has to be an Unlimited variation. I was wondering if anyone else has other similar variations of the Minor Demon, or other variations not listed.
Hi Henry

As I have a Mint but unsealed box, and extras I have checked everything:

I saw the 2 versions of Thrull-1 in the box (Cropped and Enlarged), this is logical as some left over of Beta ones were mixed in the box.

*Minor Demon color change and the enlarged artwork in Unlimited. Only the colored enlarged version in my box

*Tetravite color change and the enlarged artwork in Unlimited. I saw only one version in my box, the cropped one (Variant 2 025):
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/590-rar ... mited.html

Wasp Token saw both a color change and the enlarged artwork in Unlimited. Only the colored Enlarged version in my box.

Miscuts, Misprints ones also exist. I have also added in the index, info and pics about the Test Prints tokens from Unlimited:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/589-rar ... index.html

Hope this help.
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Post by hammr7 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:15 pm

Thanks Alexis,

I spoke with Tom Ebling years ago, and he couldn't remember any difference in the Caribou and Citizen variant tokens carried over from Beta to Unlimited. He couldn't remember f they were working away leftover Beta or reprinted.

I figure the Tetravite variations in Brown were printed at the same time, so they must have run out of one of the arts and been forced to mix the two sizes on the same print sheet. I thought if it could happen to one token it might happen to another. Like you, I have an unopened box but don't want to open it unless I am missing a token variant that might be in it.

Its funny how something could be issued almost 20 years ago and yet we see new things.

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