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Fake The CardZ Promos?

Post by berkumps » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:52 am

I have in my collection two Phyrexian Rager The CardZ promo's, and I noticed something weird the other day. The foil stamp appears to be different between the two cards. On the right card, the letters are thin, and on the left, the letters are fatter and the stamp is lower on the card. I've attached a picture showing the two cards. What do you think? Could one be fake? Or printed during a separate print run from each other? The foil stamp for my two Silver Drake promo's appear slightly different from each other aswell.

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Re: Fake The CardZ Promos?

Post by dragsamou » Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:26 am

berkumps wrote:I have in my collection two Phyrexian Rager The CardZ promo's, and I noticed something weird the other day. The foil stamp appears to be different between the two cards. On the right card, the letters are thin, and on the left, the letters are fatter and the stamp is lower on the card. I've attached a picture showing the two cards. What do you think? Could one be fake? Or printed during a separate print run from each other? The foil stamp for my two Silver Drake promo's appear slightly different from each other aswell.
Hi Mark.
This is the point of an Old Topic(On my way to find it :wink: ),I always believed that a Reprint of Fake Phyrexian Rager and Silver Drake took place as they were Amazingly difficult to get and Very Limited.
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... ght=#34978
http://www.flaminio.com/ub/UltraBoard.c ... 1&SID=7407
http://www.flaminio.com/ub/UltraBoard.c ... &SID=58790
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Post by Gary_a_Getty » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:24 am

Well, so ... which of two is the original and which the fake ?

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Rager and Drake FAKE

Post by equi-nox76 » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:35 pm

Hi,

since Henri (Magic_Bie) had some of the first copies, maybe he can scan the one that is in his collection to find out which is the real one, I honestly do not believe that there were 2 print runs for the The CardZ Promo's [-X . By the way, my Silver Drake "The CarZ" print is also slightly different from the one that's shown on the The CardZ section (printed a little bit lower).

I believe any member having those 2 cards would really appreciate finding out which are the real promo cards, since this means a lot of $$$. 8-|

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Post by berkumps » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:11 pm

I obtained some Ragers from Henri (Magic_bie), the one on the left is one of the ones I got from him.

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Post by Gary_a_Getty » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:20 pm

So in this auction the card would be fake ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/MTG-CARDZ-PROMO-PHY ... dZViewItem

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Post by Gary_a_Getty » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:25 pm

I have noticed the magazine heading and the logo is identical to the left card instead of to the right card.

You compare C and Z of the logo and the left card with C and Z of the right card.

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Post by Magik321 » Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:58 pm

Mine is exactly the same as the right one. I got it from fellow member agzz. Wierd theres 2 different type of logos in the card. I might be going Thailand this year. If I do, I'll check it out there. Is the shop you guys are talking about in the link located at MBK center top floor (the floor with the cinema)?

EDIT: I have a Thai friend, I'll ask him as well when I see him this weekend.

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Post by dragsamou » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:54 pm

Hi Members.
Sorry,I was busy,as I own the First 2 CardZ ever on Magic Rarities,I have checked them,regarding the Phyrexian Rager,the one on the Left is a Real one for me :wink:
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Post by agzz » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:00 pm

Ok, this is bad new, especially since the right one came from me.

I do not believe that there would be two different original printings so one is probibly fake. Most likely the ones I bought from a Thai seller. (ok that felt lousy..) :'-(

If it is fakes I doubt I will get honest answers from the seller. ](*,)
Also the copies I had for my own collection was OK as per a store owner I'd trust in this. On the other hand you'd need the other copy to compare with to see it so not to strange if it was missed.

[a bit OT]
Im quite happy Mark found this issue now and not next year or so since im cutting out magic last few month, selling 90% of my cards, and probibly not will be here much after that. 4 old decks and TN collection left and only a little more. I also offered my last cardz card to Marco, of course that offer does not stand.
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Do we know if the real ones was printed in Thailand or by Cartamundi?
Should they have the blue layer in them?

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Post by dragsamou » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:41 pm

agzz wrote: Do we know if the real ones was printed in Thailand or by Cartamundi?
Should they have the blue layer in them?
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CardZ is a MTG Thai Magazine,so No Carta Mundi :wink:
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Post by agzz » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:52 pm

dragsamou wrote:
agzz wrote: Do we know if the real ones was printed in Thailand or by Cartamundi?
Should they have the blue layer in them?
Hi Peter.
CardZ is a MTG Thai Magazine,so No Carta Mundi :wink:
Yes Alexis, I know its a Thai Magazine.
What I thought about was if they had them printed them self or was provided with the cards from WotC? I have no idea how such stuff work.
If they printed them themself maby the real ones have no blue layer?

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Post by the swiss » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:52 pm

Left is ok for me.

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Post by dragsamou » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:56 pm

agzz wrote:
dragsamou wrote:
agzz wrote: Do we know if the real ones was printed in Thailand or by Cartamundi?
Should they have the blue layer in them?
Hi Peter.
CardZ is a MTG Thai Magazine,so No Carta Mundi :wink:
Yes Alexis, I know its a Thai Magazine.
What I thought about was if they had them printed them self or was provided with the cards from WotC? I have no idea how such stuff work.
If they printed them themself maby the real ones have no blue layer?
Hi Peter.
Don't expect that I will tear up the Silver Drake to verify :-D
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Post by equi-nox76 » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:11 pm

I have the left Rager too, so I hope it's the real one! :-\

Alexis,
do you have a scan of your Silver Drake, since it's one of the first it should be no fake, so we can compare ours with yours.

THX Chris
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