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Question about different Mirage printings

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:20 pm
by berkumps
Is it possible to tell the difference from the boosters/starters whether you will open the dark print (rough) or light print (smooth) print variations? Are the two print variations a result of printings in Belgium & US?

I believe these different styles of printing were also found for Visions & Urza's Saga? I know there was an old topic about this, but could not find it (I will admit, I didn't look too hard).

Thanks for any info

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:43 pm
by magic-belgium
This is a question for Keith. He knows quite much about this. He explained me once about it.

If we go far about this, we'll end up collecting alternate Mirage, or Carta Mundi Mirage set...

dark mirage

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:54 am
by Mirror_Lich
Im 5 cards away from my set, still looking for help... also need several basic lands.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:08 pm
by Grapes17
Any one got some scans of examples of the differences? What are the telling signs?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:11 pm
by berkumps
I think this shows it. One on the left is darker (obviously) and rougher texture, one on right is light and smooth texture.

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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:34 pm
by Mister Foilcard
Are the two print variations a result of printings in Belgium & US?
The dark Mirage is printed in US, the light one in Belgium at Carta Mundi. The german Mirage is a light one too.

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:59 pm
by magic-belgium
So, in other words, we need to buy one US English Mirage and one European English Mirage.

Will have to check mine. Thanks Mr Foilcard !

Re: Question about different Mirage printings

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:26 am
by l0qii
berkumps wrote:I believe these different styles of printing were also found for Visions & Urza's Saga?
I just found a whole pile of these in a box of Visions if you're interested.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:00 am
by magic-belgium
To be confirmed : a seller in France is selling Mirage boxes printed in Canada, but they are terribly expensive, so I will wait.

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:09 pm
by berkumps
You can tell which printing it is for starters by looking at the gold foil. All of the made in Belgium starters I own have the gold foil closer to the middle of the deck.

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:56 pm
by magic-belgium
And this was your Tip of the Day, brought to you by Mr Sharp Eye ! (applause)

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:52 am
by fvzappa
But now I guess the question is...

Which batch/ printing of these cards is the prining that is EXTREMELY dark? Several Mirage & Visions cards are so dark that you can't even read them.

And, this light/ dark issue also exists in Urza's Saga. You can't help but notice it in the green & blue cards.

Tempest

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:31 pm
by equi-nox76
fvzappa wrote:And, this light/ dark issue also exists in Urza's Saga. You can't help but notice it in the green & blue cards.
Yes, only the green and blue cards show it very well. I have also some white Tempest cards that have this dark/light differences.
Chris

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:15 pm
by pp
I can differ them by looking at the egde cut, posted a pic some time ago.

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:46 pm
by magic-belgium
That is very interesting Patrick ! Thanks !

Chris : Can you scan 2 cards please ? One light, one dark ? Thanks !