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Post by mystical_tutor » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:06 pm

magic-belgium wrote:No problem. You dig for the rares, I'll dig for the Renaissance box :-D
LOL hope you have better luck than I. Only found one rare you want so far but found 10 more German Renaissance I didn't have and a little pile of French that I have yet to go through (or maybe they are Spanish or Portuguese--I only know they are not Italian).
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Post by magic-belgium » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:07 pm

Renaissance was just French, German and Italian, so you should have your answer :-)

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Post by mystical_tutor » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:02 am

magic-belgium wrote:Renaissance was just French, German and Italian, so you should have your answer :-)
ah ah ah.... tish tish. you made an assumption. You assume I would know the difference between a renaissance card and a 3d/4th edition card. I might not be smart enough to look and see if there was an expansion symbol. Or, as in the case of Italian, was putting a whole bunch of cards in my Italian renaissance set because they had little moons or pillers on them..... doh. Some days it pays to go golfing.

You do realize, don't you, that the only way I can tell what language it is (except German) is by the copywright information at the bottom of the card? And at 67, even with 4x glass, I have a H*** of a time reading them. Korean, Japanese and Chinese are so easy to tell apart.
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Post by magic-belgium » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:34 am

You need to separate The Dark cards from your other Renaissance Italian set (rather small, 62 cards), because the Dark was released in Italian (which was not the case in French or German).

There are tips to distinguish a Spanish card from an Italian one (assuming you can distinguish a French card).

In Italian, you will have things like volare, dello, words ending with ggi...

In Spanish, you will have words ending with as, os, you have the ñ, los, las...

That helps a lot.

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Post by agzz » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:26 am

Gary,
I hope you find this useful:

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Post by mystical_tutor » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:43 pm

agzz wrote:Gary,
I hope you find this useful:
USEFUL!!! That is Fantastic! No more magnifying glass for me. Thanks a million!
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Post by hortar » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:35 pm

The correct Word for Portuguese Sorcery it's "Feitiço" not "Feitiçio" a simple correction, but very useful your chart Peter
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Post by hiryu » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:30 am

I have a chart like that here:

http://www.snazzorama.com/magic/lang/type.html

Recently, I've added some other Magic terms to help disambiguate tricky cases, or to help you figure out what the card is. When I get a chance I'll expand the Asian languages, too. S-Chinese vs T-Chinese are tricky.

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Post by mystical_tutor » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:56 am

The charts that agzz and hiryu have provided really help in figuring out what a card is but, at least for 3d, 4th and renissance, I still read the picture.
I am finding that the copywrite line works quicker than anything to tell me what language the card is.

Alle = German
Tutti i = Italian
los = Spanish
Tous = French
os = Portuguese

I can go through a whole pile of them in no time at all now (red cards can still be a hastle though).
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Post by mystical_tutor » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:59 am

hiryu wrote: When I get a chance I'll expand the Asian languages, too.
If I can be of any help with Korean, leat me know. I'll be there for the next few weeks and I'm married to a resident expert (yes, she does play Magic too).
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Post by l0qii » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:54 am

mystical_tutor wrote: I am finding that the copywrite line works quicker than anything to tell me what language the card is.
One little exception you should be aware of:
"German Revised BB (94) Islands: French copyright date not German"

From Squt's comprehensive misprint list

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Post by magic-belgium » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:56 am

Talking about misprints, I noticed yesterday evening that one card in Portuguese Legacy has the wrong the number.

Instead of 110, the card shows 112. And 112 shows 112 too. The art is correct though.

Did anyone mention that before here ?

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Post by l0qii » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:58 am

magic-belgium wrote:Talking about misprints, I noticed yesterday evening that one card in Portuguese Legacy has the wrong the number.

Instead of 110, the card shows 112. And 112 shows 112 too. The art is correct though.

Did anyone mention that before here ?
That's also on Squt's list.

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Post by magic-belgium » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:38 am

If anyone wants this misprint, I have several in the box.

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Post by agzz » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:45 am

hiryu wrote:I have a chart like that here:

http://www.snazzorama.com/magic/lang/type.html

Recently, I've added some other Magic terms to help disambiguate tricky cases, or to help you figure out what the card is. When I get a chance I'll expand the Asian languages, too. S-Chinese vs T-Chinese are tricky.

I simply view the visuals of the scrpits.
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However this is not as true since the stopped printing tcn.

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