New filler?

Everything about value and availability of Magic items.

Moderators: cataclysm80, Apocalypse2K, berkumps, dragsamou, mystical_tutor, pp, hammr7, l0qii

Post Reply
User avatar
fvzappa
Legendary Alpha Playtest Decks Owner
Posts: 652
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:48 am
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

New filler?

Post by fvzappa » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:11 pm

I think we may have a new filler on our hands, but I just want to see what people know about this card. Here is a link: http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/ ... 020650.jpg

Okay, so I had another forum member ask me about it (magic321), and it is his card scan. I, too, have one & can make a scan. The left 90% is foil, the right 10% is plain white. The reverse is a normal, centered back. My copy has been in my hands since before they changed the foil "look," so I am to assume it may be from the same period that both came from. Somewhere around Invasion, give or take.

Thoughts are appreciated!

User avatar
pickle.69
Legendary Shivan Dragon Master
Posts: 853
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:14 pm
Location: Karlsruhe (Germany)

Post by pickle.69 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:23 am

Hi I have one of these since a couple of yreast to, but somehow it did not make it on th efiller section, I have these quit a bunch of these.
Collections needing help
Shivan Dragons http://beam.to/shivandragon
Alpha Dwarven Demo Team h: 5%
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... 9506#29506

gzeiger
Librarities Legend
Posts: 283
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:46 pm

Post by gzeiger » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:11 am

I have a couple of those too. I hadn't really considered them a "filler" since my source was a Wizards employee. Apparently they were used internally, or at least for casual play in-house, as proxies. I think the white is just the edge of the sheet. It isn't regular in size or location - I have one with a white border on the side and one on the bottom. I had no reason to believe these were ever produced as a filler on a sheet of normal cards, or officially distributed in packs. Do you have reason to think otherwise?

User avatar
fvzappa
Legendary Alpha Playtest Decks Owner
Posts: 652
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:48 am
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Post by fvzappa » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:21 am

I had no idea what the source of the card was. I just assumed they came out of packs by accident.

the swiss
Librarities Legend
Posts: 163
Joined: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:43 pm

Post by the swiss » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:36 am

Look

Rarities - Test Prints - White foil test print for the STAR

User avatar
fvzappa
Legendary Alpha Playtest Decks Owner
Posts: 652
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:48 am
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Post by fvzappa » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:31 am

Oh wow, thank you Josef. I never would have found that had you not pointed that out to me. That is a big help.

Magik321
Legendary Infernal Contract Collector
Posts: 350
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:56 am
Location: Singapore

Post by Magik321 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:26 pm

the swiss wrote:Look

Rarities - Test Prints - White foil test print for the STAR
Hi,
Would the card be classified as a test print or a filler?

User avatar
ende73
Legendary Righteous Phoenix Mage
Posts: 865
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:17 pm
Location: Rome (Italy)

Post by ende73 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:08 am

I own about 20-25 of these (most being all-foil, but some with white stripes on the egdes like the one scanned), but to be honest these were given to me almost for free by some guy who claimed they were very easy to make using some solvents and such.
I did not understand whether he was saying he'd actually made them himself, but he certainly didn't value them very much and it's weird he was holding so many.

So surely this is originally a real Filler (or test print I would say), but unfortunately easily replicable apparently.

gzeiger
Librarities Legend
Posts: 283
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:46 pm

Post by gzeiger » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:17 pm

I don't see how you can manufacture one with a white border.

User avatar
ende73
Legendary Righteous Phoenix Mage
Posts: 865
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:17 pm
Location: Rome (Italy)

Post by ende73 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:33 pm

gzeiger wrote:I don't see how you can manufacture one with a white border.
Possibly using an eraser (I know you can make BB bordered cards WB using a normal rubber eraser like the onese you use with pencils) ?

However I'm really not sure, as I mentioned I haven't made these myself or seen these made, it's just curious I found so many from the same source at close to nothing...

gzeiger
Librarities Legend
Posts: 283
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:46 pm

Post by gzeiger » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:04 am

An eraser can remove ink, but I haven't found any way to remove the underlying foil layer that way, which is what these are. It's silver foil on most of the card, similar to an older foil erased with acetone, but not extending quite to the edge.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest