What do people think about hand-cut miscuts?
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What do people think about hand-cut miscuts?
For instance:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321200460287?ss ... 1555.l2649
Does Wizards have a policy against these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321200460287?ss ... 1555.l2649
Does Wizards have a policy against these?
That isn't the point. The point is the possibility of future representation, with a dash of the "Lemons" problem that we read so much about. As for value, they obviously do have value. A look at the completed auctions and on the facebook rarity page shows plenty of value attached here to be honest.
Three sellers down the road, these become actual miscuts, and before anyone says they are easy to differentiate, so are bleached cards. How many threads have we seen here on whether a card is bleached?
Three sellers down the road, these become actual miscuts, and before anyone says they are easy to differentiate, so are bleached cards. How many threads have we seen here on whether a card is bleached?
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I do consider those as Hand Made Cards even if they belong from an Official uncut sheet. I have a huge collection of hand made cards, I love them. But, I will never spend 100$ or more for any of those. What's next Step, you grab a Beta or valuable uncut sheet, and you cut them, to satisfy some customers willing to spend huge money on a hand Mmde Beta Miscut or else. Well, I don't judge anyone, but if some people are happy to spend $$$ on a False Miscut card, that's their business. Those are not Rarities, or Real Miscut, just simple hand made cards that anyone can do by cutting an uncut sheet.
I do consider those as Hand Made Cards even if they belong from an Official uncut sheet. I have a huge collection of hand made cards, I love them. But, I will never spend 100$ or more for any of those. What's next Step, you grab a Beta or valuable uncut sheet, and you cut them, to satisfy some customers willing to spend huge money on a hand Mmde Beta Miscut or else. Well, I don't judge anyone, but if some people are happy to spend $$$ on a False Miscut card, that's their business. Those are not Rarities, or Real Miscut, just simple hand made cards that anyone can do by cutting an uncut sheet.
I agree with this, but what if, somewhere down the road, these get advertised as actual miscuts and people are spending $$$ with that assumption in mind?dragsamou wrote:Hi
I do consider those as Hand Made Cards even if they belong from an Official uncut sheet. I have a huge collection of hand made cards, I love them. But, I will never spend 100$ or more for any of those. What's next Step, you grab a Beta or valuable uncut sheet, and you cut them, to satisfy some customers willing to spend huge money on a hand Mmde Beta Miscut or else. Well, I don't judge anyone, but if some people are happy to spend $$$ on a False Miscut card, that's their business. Those are not Rarities, or Real Miscut, just simple hand made cards that anyone can do by cutting an uncut sheet.
Well, a crook is a crook, it's like selling a Bleach card and advertising it as an albino. If, the seller stipulates clearly that they are hand cut, and people buy the card with that knowledge, fine, well, personally, I only buy the Real Thing.ouallada wrote:I agree with this, but what if, somewhere down the road, these get advertised as actual miscuts and people are spending $$$ with that assumption in mind?dragsamou wrote:Hi
I do consider those as Hand Made Cards even if they belong from an Official uncut sheet. I have a huge collection of hand made cards, I love them. But, I will never spend 100$ or more for any of those. What's next Step, you grab a Beta or valuable uncut sheet, and you cut them, to satisfy some customers willing to spend huge money on a hand Mmde Beta Miscut or else. Well, I don't judge anyone, but if some people are happy to spend $$$ on a False Miscut card, that's their business. Those are not Rarities, or Real Miscut, just simple hand made cards that anyone can do by cutting an uncut sheet.
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Once a sheet is given out it is totally up to the owner of that sheet what they want to do with it. WOTC no longer has any control over that, and I imagine eBay would ignore any take down requests.
The responsibility would fall on groups like ours to make sure future collectors/players are aware of hand cut cards and where they come from.
The responsibility would fall on groups like ours to make sure future collectors/players are aware of hand cut cards and where they come from.
Hi Timl0qii wrote:Once a sheet is given out it is totally up to the owner of that sheet what they want to do with it. WOTC no longer has any control over that, and I imagine eBay would ignore any take down requests.
The responsibility would fall on groups like ours to make sure future collectors/players are aware of hand cut cards and where they come from.
Correct. I was amazed at the number of sheets available or that was available on the market from so many Editions or Extensions. If you type MTG uncut sheet on Google images, it's a blast.
PS: I hope, it's our Member Wizard1 who bought the Uncut Legends and The Dark Commons and Uncommons sheets that was sold beginning of September on Ebay, as he's an Uncut Sheet Collector.
And the Prizes of some recent Uncut Sheets
Return to Ravnica: Uncut Full Foil Sheet - Uncommons
Yes. An entire, uncut sheet of Magic: The Gathering cards from Return to Ravnica. Literally one of a kind. A supreme collectible. This sheet contains all uncommons and includes a large blank portion. Totally unique.
Auction Type: Live
Winning Bid: Omega Lairon for $4050.00
https://www.desertbus.org/live-auction/250
Return to Ravnica: Uncut Full Foil Sheet - Rares
Likely one of the spiciest live auction lots in the entire history of Desert Bus for Hope. A full, uncut, foil sheet of Return to Ravnica. Rares and Mythics. Simply stunning.
Auction Type: Live
Winning Bid: PeskyEye for $6750.00
https://www.desertbus.org/live-auction/251
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I think the difference is that on Ebay, you can eventually get back your money...On Facebook, it's the job of Administrator and Moderators, to let know the Members, if they have some integrity...ouallada wrote:WOTC has no control over whether a sheet is kept intact, but surely there is the possibility of recourse once they are sold over public domain such as ebay and facebook? These are cards which aren't even supposed to exist, much less as miscuts.
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To be fair, these were charity auctions. People regularly overbid on items when the money is going to a cause.dragsamou wrote: Winning Bid: Omega Lairon for $4050.00
https://www.desertbus.org/live-auction/250
Winning Bid: PeskyEye for $6750.00
https://www.desertbus.org/live-auction/251
Yes Tim, it's for a good cause =D>l0qii wrote:To be fair, these were charity auctions. People regularly overbid on items when the money is going to a cause.dragsamou wrote: Winning Bid: Omega Lairon for $4050.00
https://www.desertbus.org/live-auction/250
Winning Bid: PeskyEye for $6750.00
https://www.desertbus.org/live-auction/251
But as comparison:
Legends Uncommon Sheet: $768
Legends Common Sheet: $415
The Dark Uncommon Sheet: $587
The Dark Common Sheet: $335
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